Dokdo-or-Takeshima?: Full Text of Bush-Lee Joint Press Conference

7.8.08

Full Text of Bush-Lee Joint Press Conference

The "Market Watch" section of the online version of "The Wall Street Journal" has posted the full text of the statements given by President Bush and Korean President Lee at their joint press conference in Seoul, Korea HERE. The following is what President Lee said about "Dokdo":

Question: "Additionally, with regards to the Dokdo issue, we already see the conclusion of this issue, but, however, we still have the question of the naming issue, because Dokdo is still referred to as Liancourt Rocks. What kind of dialogue did you have with President Bush during the summit meeting regarding Dokdo naming?"
Lee: "As for the Dokdo naming issue, this is not a Korea-U.S. issue. This is a Korea-Japan issue. So -- well, I told President Bush -- I thanked him, of course, for correcting swiftly the naming issue within the United States. But for the remaining issues, this is an issue that the Korean government must take up in terms of the justifiability, the historical right that we have over Dokdo, and all the data that we have managed to accrue."

Here is a LINK to a video of the full press conference.

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pacifist7/8/08 10:47
So President Lee knows that it was merely a problem of the name, not a problem of sovereignty. Why did many Korean people misunderstand it? Was it due to misinformation by Korean media?
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dokdo-takeshima.com7/8/08 12:07
Pacifist, America made a mistake by listing Liancourt Rocks' sovereignty undetermined.

After pressure by the Korean government the American government reinstated the islands as "Sovereignty ROK"

However, the website still lists Dokdo as Liancourt Rocks and Korea's name "Dokdo" as a derivative. Korea would like the international name of the rocks to be "Dokdo"

So the issue of Dokdo's name and soveriegnty are separate issues.

However, the international community aggrees Korea maintains sovereignty over Dokdo.
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pacifist7/8/08 12:30
Steve,

"However, the international community aggrees Korea maintains sovereignty over Dokdo".

It is groundless insistency. Please show us the ground.
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dokdo-takeshima.com7/8/08 12:39
Pacifist, America accepted Korea's sovereignty over Dokdo.

Quit your crying and take it like a man you big baby!!

America-Admits-Dokdo-Is-Korean!!!
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Raquel7/8/08 13:08
dogdo,

America does not even recognize the Korean name "Dokdo" for the Liancourt Rocks.

What made you so happy and joyful like a mad puppy?
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Gerry Bevers7/8/08 13:10
The United States has stated that it is neutral on the sovereignty issue, and that was stressd even after the status was changed back to "Korean sovereignty," so I think the change will only be temporary, pending a reevaluating of the entire naming system. However, that was mainly just a pretense for the benefit of Bush's trip to Korea. It will not be long before the status of Liancourt Rocks is changed back to "undesignated sovereignty," which will be in accordance with the US claim of neutrality.
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dokdo-takeshima.com7/8/08 23:18
Gerry, the U.S. website states Liancourt Rocks is under Korean sovereignty.

They take a neutral stance on the dispute but they do not argue how currently administers over the islands.

Gerry states "...It will not be long before the status of Liancourt Rocks is changed back to "undesignated sovereignty," which will be in accordance with the US claim of neutrality...."

Wow Gerry, when you did get the job at the U.S. Embassy?
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pacifist8/8/08 07:54
Steve,

You wrote;
"Gerry, the U.S. website states Liancourt Rocks is under Korean sovereignty".

Please show us the website. US didn't say that, USA informed Japan that they are taking a neutral stance concerning this issue.
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dokdo-takeshima.com8/8/08 13:39
Pacifist, seriously what's wrong with you? I've given you the link to the news article and you still demand more. Do you have screw loose?

Pacifist, this is the website after the American website changed the sovereignty of Liancourt Rocks to "undesignated" from Gerry's article last week.

UndesignatedSovereignty

And then they realized their mistake and put Liancourt Rocks under the administration of South Korea. Note if you do a search for Liancourt Rocks under Japan you get nothing.

See this updated page from the same website.

Korean-Sovereignty-Over-Dokdo

Sorry Pacifist.
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pacifist9/8/08 07:53
Steve,

The website you mentioned is a BGN website, and BGN is an organisation of the names USA uses - it's just about the name not sovereignty.

The official US stance towards the dispute is "neutral" and she informed Japan of her neutral stance just after the "decision" by Bush.

And the USA government's official homepage doesn't say that "USA admitted Korea's sovereignty over Liancourt Rocks". They didn't change the policy - they take the same old "neutral" stance before and even after the BGN name change and Bush's decision.
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This satellite photo shows Ulleungdo's neighboring islands of Gwaneumdo (觀音島) and Jukdo (竹島) off Ulleungdo's east shore. Gwaneumdo is only about 100 meters offshore and looks more like a cape than an island. Jukdo is about 2 km offshore. The old Korean name for Jukdo was "Usando" (于山島), as many of Korea's old maps show. Koreans claim that Usando was Korea's old name for "Dokdo" (Liancourt Rocks), but they have no documents or maps to prove it. Also, Liancourt Rocks is about ninety-two kilometers southeast of Ulleungdo and are essentially two islands, but all of Korea's old maps show it as one island just off shore of Ulleungdo.

"Cheonggudo" (靑邱圖) Atlas (1860 - 1872)

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"Cheonggudo" (靑邱圖) Atlas (1834)

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"Dong Yeodo" (東輿圖) Atlas (1795 - 1800)

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"Joseon-do" (朝鮮圖) - 1800 - 1822

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"Gwandong Bangyeo" (關東方輿) - late 1800s?)

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"Joseon Jido" (朝鮮地圖) Atlas (1750 - 1768)

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Inspector's Map of Ulleungdo (1711)

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"Haejwa Jeondo" (海左全圖) - mid 1800s

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Carte de la Coree (1846)

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Joseon Jeondo (朝鮮全圖) from the "Gakdo Jido" (各道地圖) Atlas (latter 18th c.)

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"Joseon Jido" (朝鮮地圖) Atlas (1898)

"Donggyeong San Cheon - Paldo Jido (東京山川八道地圖) Atlas (date unknown)

"Jeongukdo" (全國圖) from the "Dongguk Daecheondo" (東國大全圖) - 1740

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Full Text of Bush-Lee Joint Press Conference

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