Dokdo-or-Takeshima?: They insist that Tsushima was Korean territory

23.7.08

They insist that Tsushima was Korean territory

According to Chosun Online, a professor Song Sun-cheol (may not exact) of Kangwon University insists that Tsushima was Korean territory showing the 1549 Japanese map of Korea, "朝鮮国地理図". http://www.chosunonline.com/article/20080717000015

Actually Tsushima was drawn but it may have been drawn because it is located at near Chosun. One can't claim ownership from this kind of map.

When the local government of Tsushima sent treasure (gold) to the Imperial Court of Japan in 701 AD, emperor was glad to have the gift and gave the name of the era Taiho (大宝, treasure）. So at least Tsushima was Japanese territory in 701 AD. And in the 魏志倭人伝, the old record of China (陳寿 233～297 AD) also referred to Tsushima as a part of Japanese counties. So the scholar's theory is out of question.

By the way, in this map Usando was drawn at the west of Ulleungdo. This map was another proof that Usando was not Liancourt Rocks. The professor may have shot his own foot.

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pacifist23/7/08 22:33
Gerry,

Please correct English in the text if you need. Thank you.
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pacifist23/7/08 22:55
Gerry,

I read another news on Chosun online, which is about a new book written by Prof.Park Song-yong (パク・ソンヨン教授)of 嶺南大独島研究所, the title is 『独島研究叢書』（京仁文化社刊）and was published on July 22nd. Have you ever heard of this book?

If you have a chance to read it, could you please let us know about it. I was interested in it because the article says that the book referred to the voyage of people of Ulleungdo to Dokdo.
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Gerry Bevers24/7/08 00:06
Korean claims on Tsushima (대마도) are ridiculous.

In 1407 in the Records of King Taejong (太宗實錄) HERE, the Lord of Tsushima suggested to King Taejong that he be allowed to establish villages on Ulleungdo. The Korean king replied that the Japanese emperor would consider that treason. And when the Tsushima lord replied that that would not be considered teason in Japan, the Korean king said that if happened within the borders of Japan, it might be considered treason, but that this would be different since they would be crossing beyond their border.

Also, in the Records of King Sejong in 1426 HERE, Korea's defence ministry (兵曹), in an exchange withthe the Gangwon Provincial Governor, worried that if people in the region learned the "secret" of making gunpowder, then they might run away to Muleungdo (武陵島) or Tsushima (對馬島) and teach the secret to the Japanese. That is evidence that Tsushima was not part of Korea, even though Koreans claim that King Sejong had conquered Tsushima just a few years earlier.
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kinkan24/7/08 19:23
hello. I'm japanese but I try to be fair.
I thought Korea had said "Agreement Respecting the Disposition of Former Japanese Territories" by the Allied Powers was very important to interprate "Treaty of San Francisco" which dicided about the territory of Japan internationally.
I don't know what the Agreement means in international law but the Agreement has said that Liancourt Rocks is in Korea and Tsushima Island is in Japan.
If Korea want to rely on the Agreement, Korea must admit that Tsushima Island is in Japan. If Korea claims Tsushima, Korea loses the reason why Liancourt Rocks is korean though the Treaty of San Francisco doesn't mention Liancourt Rocks as korean territory.
Then how does Korea prove Liancourt Rocks is in korea in international law? Only history? I don't think it's enough because the history of Liancourt Rocks is arguable itself.
I wonder those who claim Tsushima recognise this.
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Gerry Bevers24/7/08 19:53
Kinkan,

The San Francisco Treaty did not give Liancourt Rocks to Korea. It allowed Japan to keep the rocks.

As for Tsushima, Korea has no historical claim on that island, either.
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kinkan24/7/08 22:08
Gerry Bevers, thank you for your response.

>The San Francisco Treaty did not give Liancourt Rocks to Korea. It allowed Japan to keep the rocks.

I know Japanese Goverment thinks so. But the academic meeting of Dokdo or Dokdo-Gakkai thinks "Treaty of San Francisco" doesn't mention Liancourt Rocks is in Japanese territory either, so Korea thinks Liancourt Rocks is in Korea because of "Agreement Respecting the Disposition of Former Japanese Territories".

And what I wanted to tell was that it seems very illugical for Korean to claim Liancourt Rocks and Tsushima at the same time because the Agreement Korea depends on clearly says Tsushima is in Japan.

I'm sorry my comment might be improper in this blog because it's not related to the belonging of Liancourt Rocks or Tsushima, but just s logic.
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pacifist24/7/08 23:32
Kinkan,

Please read the following:
http://dokdo-or-takeshima.blogspot.com/2007/12/report-of-van-fleet-mission-to-far-east.html

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It says:
When the Treaty of Peace with Japan was being drafted, the Republic of Korea asserted its claims to Dokto but the United States concluded that they
remained under Japanese sovereignty and the Island was not included among the
Islands that Japan released from its ownership under the Peace Treaty.
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And please look at the Peace Treaty itself:

"Japan recognizing the independence of Korea, renounces all right, title and claim to Korea, including the islands of Quelpart, Port Hamilton and Dagelet".

At a very early stage, Liancourt Rocks were included in the list above but after investigating and considering USA dropped Liancourt Rocks from the list. The process can be read elsewhere in the blog. As a result, Liancourt Rocks were not given to Korea. So van Fleet mentioned "they remained under Japanese sovereignty".

This decision was a shock to Rhee Syngman because it was his insistency that "Dokdo is ours", which made him urge to make Rhee Syngman Line three months before the conclusion of the Peace Treaty. And it was the beginning of the Takeshima/Dokdo dispute.
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helpfish30/7/08 22:20
I don`t consider the SF Treaty as god-given and therefore without errors. I think the US were wrong on Dokdo in the SF Treaty.
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Unknown14/9/11 13:09
Gerry,

I don't think the japanese can take the Dokdo and tsushima.
http://english.dokdohistory.com/#
please search about dokdo,and visit
this site.
http://dokdo.kcg.go.kr/sub04/a_1.asp
I'm sorry for there's no English one. It contain a thought of two country(kor,jap),about The San Francisco Treaty too.
Thank you.
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NE Shore of Ulleungdo (鬱陵島 - 울릉도)

This satellite photo shows Ulleungdo's neighboring islands of Gwaneumdo (觀音島) and Jukdo (竹島) off Ulleungdo's east shore. Gwaneumdo is only about 100 meters offshore and looks more like a cape than an island. Jukdo is about 2 km offshore. The old Korean name for Jukdo was "Usando" (于山島), as many of Korea's old maps show. Koreans claim that Usando was Korea's old name for "Dokdo" (Liancourt Rocks), but they have no documents or maps to prove it. Also, Liancourt Rocks is about ninety-two kilometers southeast of Ulleungdo and are essentially two islands, but all of Korea's old maps show it as one island just off shore of Ulleungdo.

"Cheonggudo" (靑邱圖) Atlas (1860 - 1872)

This Korean map of Ulleungdo (鬱陵島 - 울릉도) showed it with a small island off its eastern shore labeled as "Usan" (于山). Hash marks at the bottom of the map showed that Usan was less than 4 km off Ulleungdo's east shore. That would mean that it would be Ulleungdo's neighboring island of Jukdo, which is about 2.2 km off Ulleungdo's east shore. Koreans claim that Usando was the old name for Dokdo (Liancourt Rocks), but Dokdo is 92 km southeast of Ulleungdo and is essentially two islands, not one. The map is stored in the National Library of Korea.

"Cheonggudo" (靑邱圖) Atlas (1834)

This Korean map of Ulleungdo (鬱陵島 - 울릉도) showed Usan (于山 - 우산) as a neighboring island just off Ulleungdo's east shore. The hash marks at the bottom of the map showed the island to be about 4 km offshore. Usando was the old Korean name for Ulleungdo's neighboring island of Jukdo, which is about 2.2 km of Ulleungdo's east shore. Koreans claim that Usando was the old Korean name for "Dokdo" (Liancourt Rocks), which is 92 km southeast of Ulleungdo, but this map and many others prove that claim false. The map is stored in Seoul National University's Kyujanggak Center for Korean Studies.

"Dong Yeodo" (東輿圖) Atlas (1795 - 1800)

This map showed Ulleungdo (鬱陵島 - 울릉도) with a neighboring island labeled as "Usan" (于山 - 우산). Usando (于山島) was the old Korean name for Ulleungdo's neighboring island of Jukdo (竹島 - 죽도), which is about 2.2 km off Ulleungdo's east shore. Koreans claim that Usando was the old name for "Dokdo" (Liancourt Rocks), which is 92 km southeast of Ulleungdo, but this map and many others prove that claim wrong. The map is stored in Japan's "University of Tsukuba Library" (筑波大学附属図書館).

"Joseon-do" (朝鮮圖) - 1800 - 1822

This map of Ullelungdo (鬱陵島) is from the Korean atlas "Joseon-do" (朝鮮圖), which is believed to have been made sometime between 1800 and 1822. Ulleungdo is shown with a neighboring island labeled as Usan (于山). Koreans claim that Usando (于山島) was the old Korean name for Dokdo (Liancourt Rocks), but this map and many others show that it was Ulleungdo's neighboring island of Jukdo (竹島), which is Ulleungdo's largest neighboring island and only two kilometers off Ulleungdo's east shore. The map is stored in the Osaka Nakanoshima Library (中之島圖書館).

"Gwandong Bangyeo" (關東方輿) - late 1800s?)

This map of Ulleungdo comes from an atlas entitled "Gwandong Bangyeo" (關東方輿), which was probably made in the late 1800s since the map is very similarly to another map of Ulleungdo that was made between 1884 and 1894. The mapmaker used gridlines to help show relative size and distance. The map shows Ulleungdo with a small island off its east shore labeled as "Usan" (于山), which was the old Korean name for Ulleungdo's neighboring island of Jukdo (竹島 - 죽도). Jukdo is Ulleungdo's largest neighoring island and is about two kilometers off Ulleungdo's east shore. Koreans claim that Usando was the old Korean name for "Dokdo" (Liancourt Rocks), but they have no maps or documents to prove it. The map is stored in the Korean National Library.

"Joseon Jido" (朝鮮地圖) Atlas (1750 - 1768)

This Korean map of Ulleungdo (鬱陵島 - 울릉도) showed "Usan" (于山 - 우산) as a neighboring island. The grid lines on the map helped show the small island's relative distance from Ulleungdo. Usando (于山島 - 우산도) was the old Korean name for Ulleungdo's neighboring island of Jukdo (竹島 - 죽도), which is about 2.2 km off Ulleungdo's east shore. Korean's claim that Usando was the old name for "Dokdo" (Liancourt Rocks), but this map and many others prove that claim false.

Inspector's Map of Ulleungdo (1711)

The map is an inspector's map that showed Ulleungdo with an island off its east shore labeled as "the so-called Usando" (所謂于山島). The small island was also labeled as having "fields of haejang bamboo" (海長竹田). Koreans claim that Usando was Dokdo (Liancourt Rocks), but this map shows that it could not have been Dokdo since Dokdo is just rocks without the soil to grow haejang bamboo. Also, Usando was shown as a neighboring island of Ulleungdo, but Dokdo is 92 km southeast of Ulleungdo. Stored in Seoul Nat'l University's Kyujanggak Institute of Korean Studies.

"Haejwa Jeondo" (海左全圖) - mid 1800s

This old Korean map showed Ulleungdo (鬱陵島 - 울릉도) with a small neighboring island just off its east shore labeled as "Usan" (于山 - 우산). Koreans claim that Usando (于山島 - 우산도) was the old name for Dokdo (Liancourt Rocks), but this map is evidence against the Korean claim. Liancourt Rocks is essentially two islands 92 kilometers southeast of Ulleungdo, but the Usan on this map is just off Ulleungdo's east shore and is only one island. In fact, Usando was the old name for Ulleungdo's neighboring island of Jukdo (竹島 - 죽도), which is only two kilometers off Ulleungdo's east shore.

Carte de la Coree (1846)

This map was made iin 1846 by Kim Dae-geon (金大建), who was Korea's first Catholic priest. He made this map for the benefit of the French priest he works with. He was killed by the Joseon government the same year this map was made. The map shows Ulleungdo labeled in French as "Oulangto" and its neighboring island of Usando labeled as "Ousan." Koreans claim that Usando (于山島 - 우산도) was the old name for Dokdo (Liancourt Rock), but this map shows Usando as one island just of the east shore of Ulleungdo. That tells us that Usando was almost certainly Ulleungdo's neighboring island of Jukdo (竹島 - 죽도), which is only 2 kilometers off Ulleungdo's east shore. Also, this island could not have been Liancourt Rocks since Liancourt Rocks is essentially two islands not one. The original of this map is stored in the National Library of France.

Joseon Jeondo (朝鮮全圖) from the "Gakdo Jido" (各道地圖) Atlas (latter 18th c.)

This old Korean map showed an island labeled as "Usando" (于山島 - 우산도) just off the east shore of Ulleundo (鬱陵島 - 울릉도). Koreans claim that Usando was the old name for Dokdo (Liancourt Rocks), but this map is more evidence against that claim. Liancourt Rocks is essentially two islands ninety-two kilometers southeast of Ulleungdo, but this map shows Usando as one island just off Ulleungdo's east shore. Usando was, in fact, the old name for Ulleungdo's neighboring island of Jukdo (竹島 - 죽도), which is about two kilometers off Ulleungdo's east shore. This map is stored in Korea's Yeongnam University Museum.

"Joseon Jido" (朝鮮地圖) Atlas (1898)

"Donggyeong San Cheon - Paldo Jido (東京山川八道地圖) Atlas (date unknown)

"Jeongukdo" (全國圖) from the "Dongguk Daecheondo" (東國大全圖) - 1740

This old Korean map shows Ulleungdo (鬱陵島 - 울릉도) with a small neighboring island just off its east shore labeled as "Usando" (于山島 - 우산도). Koreans claim that Usando was the old name for Dokdo, but this map is evidence against that claim. Liancourt Rocks is essentially two islands ninety-two kilometers southeast of Ulleungdo, but the Usando on this map is one island just off the east shore of Ulleungdo. Usando was, in fact, the old name for Ulleungdo's neighboring island of Jukdo (竹島 - 죽도), which is about two kilometers off Ulleungdo's east shore. This map is stored in the Korean National Museum.

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23.7.08

They insist that Tsushima was Korean territory

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