tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post8621951481220677113..comments2024-01-26T17:48:29.804+09:00Comments on Dokdo-or-Takeshima?: "US Office No Longer Regards Dokdo as Korean Territory"Gerry Bevershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14311939520870098017noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-72629115785771742032008-07-31T18:02:00.000+09:002008-07-31T18:02:00.000+09:00Gerry,It seems BGN has two pages of Liancourt Rock...Gerry,<BR/><BR/>It seems BGN has two pages of Liancourt Rocks and they changed back one of the pages to South Korea (1993) yesterday.<BR/><BR/>This is the page changed this time.<BR/>Liancourt Rocks (South Korea)<BR/>http://geonames.nga.mil/ggmagaz/detaillinksearch.asp?G_NAME=%2732FA883FAB333774E0440003BA962ED3%27&Diacritics=DC<BR/>It was last updated in 1993.<BR/><BR/>This is the other page of Liancourt Rocks (Oceans - Undesignated Sovereignty)<BR/>http://geonames.nga.mil/ggmagaz/detaillinksearch.asp?G_NAME=%2732FA8849F1523774E0440003BA962ED3%27&Diacritics=DC<BR/>Last updated in 1996.Mikanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00236007814936690448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-57689276211194121952008-07-30T18:38:00.000+09:002008-07-30T18:38:00.000+09:00Mikan,According to Korean newspapers, the change f...Mikan,<BR/><BR/>According to Korean newspapers, the change from "Korean" sovereignty to "undesignated sovereignty" happened last Friday.Gerry Bevershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14311939520870098017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-80496386031451318502008-07-30T16:28:00.000+09:002008-07-30T16:28:00.000+09:00According to Yomiuri Shimbun (Japanese version) sa...According to Yomiuri Shimbun (Japanese version) says that USA laid emphasis on the fact that USA has not ever admitted Liancourt Rocks to be Korean territory.<BR/><BR/>(米国がこれまで竹島を韓国領と認めていたわけではないと強調した。)<BR/>http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/world/news/20080729-OYT1T00418.htmpacifisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14100903035796287895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-28206780700934926442008-07-30T15:22:00.000+09:002008-07-30T15:22:00.000+09:00Hi, GerryI have noticed that the BGN page was last...Hi, Gerry<BR/>I have noticed that the BGN page was last updated in 1996. The news source comes from Yonhap news. Did Yonhap know what the page said exactly before 1996? Did it really say it belonged to S.Korea?<BR/><BR/>This is the thread I posted on Naver EnjoyJapan/Korea (korean).<BR/>http://enjoyjapan.naver.com/tbbs/read.php?board_id=teconomy&page=3&nid=3674825&start_range=3674795&end_range=3674830Mikanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00236007814936690448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-78670966749115576072008-07-30T15:10:00.000+09:002008-07-30T15:10:00.000+09:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mikanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00236007814936690448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-35137580071209135732008-07-28T11:07:00.000+09:002008-07-28T11:07:00.000+09:00dajooo,The article says that USA will take a neutr...dajooo,<BR/><BR/>The article says that USA will take a neutral stance, it does not mean "Dokdo was/is their land after all".<BR/><BR/>They say that Korea and Japan should talk with each other and resolve the issue. Not bad, isn't it?pacifisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14100903035796287895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-19710598381039211212008-07-28T02:27:00.000+09:002008-07-28T02:27:00.000+09:00i have a feeling that the Koreans were insulted ...i have a feeling that the Koreans were insulted Dokdo was/is their land after alldajooohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13564418532222109493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-12283902891085154242008-07-27T23:27:00.000+09:002008-07-27T23:27:00.000+09:00Kaneganeseさん、私の推測は皮肉ではありません。こういうことです。 韓国政府は竹島の領有権...Kaneganeseさん、私の推測は皮肉ではありません。こういうことです。<BR/><BR/> 韓国政府は竹島の領有権が無いことは分かっています。だから、一応国内向けにそれなりの強硬な態度は見せていますが、竹島問題で日本と正面から対立することはしたくありません。もともと日本との協力関係を強化したいと考えている李明博大統領の場合はなおさらそうです。<BR/><BR/> ところが、そういう姿勢でいると国民が許しません。李大統領は板ばさみで苦しい立場に追い込まれます。米国にとってとりあえず李大統領は良いパートナーのはずだから、彼が指導力を失って韓国が混乱したり日韓関係が極度に悪化することを米国は望まないはずです。<BR/><BR/> で、韓国国民に向かって、「独島は韓国の領土だと言うが、我々米国は必ずしもそう考えているわけではないよ」というメッセージを出して、李大統領が動きやすいようした、ということではなかろうかと推測した次第です。まあ、当たっているかどうかはわかりませんが。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-26854566535431361902008-07-27T23:24:00.000+09:002008-07-27T23:24:00.000+09:00pacifist,At least pronunciation-wise, "Dogdo" is t...pacifist,<BR/><BR/>At least pronunciation-wise, "Dogdo" is the closest way to write "독도(獨島) in the romanization of Hangeul.<BR/><BR/>So, perhaps, U.S. is trying to teach the Koreans how to write "Dokdo" more correctly.Raquelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06777067933400361301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-65289649361517981652008-07-27T23:10:00.000+09:002008-07-27T23:10:00.000+09:00raquel,I didn't notice about "Dog-do", but it mayb...raquel,<BR/><BR/>I didn't notice about "Dog-do", but it maybe a joke as you say...<BR/>Sorry for Korean people, but maybe.<BR/><BR/>By the way, the other day somebody posted a site somewhere in this blog, concerning Korean lobbyists in the USA were enormously active to stop to re-name the island as Liancourt Rocks. Their action may have induced this kind of joke...(just a imagination, sorry).pacifisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14100903035796287895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-32566340155152645282008-07-27T22:51:00.000+09:002008-07-27T22:51:00.000+09:00Hi,I'm very sorry for the Koreans, but the U.S. Bo...Hi,<BR/><BR/>I'm very sorry for the Koreans, but the U.S. Board on Geographic Names(BGN)should have added the name "Dok-do" as a Variant along with the other Variants <BR/><BR/>I even think that BGN is making fun of the Koreans by putting up "Dog-do" as a Variant in the list.Raquelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06777067933400361301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-43674055097248034632008-07-27T22:44:00.000+09:002008-07-27T22:44:00.000+09:00I don't mind the order of the variant names. If Ko...I don't mind the order of the variant names. <BR/><BR/>If Korean people are satisfied, all the variant names may be written by alphabetical order - Dokdo first, but it wouldn't help much for the ultimate result of the dispute. <BR/><BR/>It is a time for both countries to discuss openly and scientifically, not emotionally. And if they won't be able to agree one decision, they should go to ICJ.pacifisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14100903035796287895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-13788418648688473472008-07-27T22:08:00.001+09:002008-07-27T22:08:00.001+09:00I have just added to the post a screenshot of what...I have just added to the post a screenshot of what they are upset about.Gerry Bevershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14311939520870098017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-35119477543655875412008-07-27T22:08:00.000+09:002008-07-27T22:08:00.000+09:00Kaneganese,I think USA's decision is not bad but n...Kaneganese,<BR/><BR/>I think USA's decision is not bad but not fair, because they knew Rhee Syngman violated the international law.<BR/><BR/>They should say at least that they knew it was illegal to occupy the island but the decision may have been a favor to the president Rhee Myong-bak.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I hope the president will decide not to take the same old nationalistic policy.pacifisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14100903035796287895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-84044173455235278712008-07-27T21:57:00.000+09:002008-07-27T21:57:00.000+09:00I agree with pacifist. U.S.'s decision is fair. I ...I agree with pacifist. U.S.'s decision is fair. I don't mind listing Takeshima behind Tokdo, though as long as it is clearly written as disputed territory.<BR/><BR/>And I just understood chaamiey's sarcasm. Yes, it might help president Lee, just like PM Fukuda did... It depends on president Lee's decision if they go back to the lost 10 years, or change Korea to become democratic developped country.Kaneganesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533339719864245857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-66203540792555005142008-07-27T21:36:00.000+09:002008-07-27T21:36:00.000+09:00It is a favorable movement but USA has some respon...It is a favorable movement but USA has some responsibilities to the issue because USA knew it was illegal for Rhee Syngman's Korea to occupy the island and warned them (as various reports proved) but USA didn't use forces to South Korea due to the strategical reason.<BR/><BR/>It was a critical period during the cold war so that Japan had to endure but now that the cold war ended, USA should show their fairness - neutral position is not fair when they knew Rhee Syngman violated the international law.pacifisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14100903035796287895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-87953144978174149212008-07-27T21:04:00.000+09:002008-07-27T21:04:00.000+09:00A lot of Korean spam mail will be sent to US Offic...A lot of Korean spam mail will be sent to US Office.opphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01174343282738727130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-48258518633961550912008-07-27T20:23:00.000+09:002008-07-27T20:23:00.000+09:00U.S wants to help Rhee Myong-Bak,I guess.U.S wants to help Rhee Myong-Bak,I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com