tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post1374411891313978460..comments2024-01-26T17:48:29.804+09:00Comments on Dokdo-or-Takeshima?: 1881 - Kitazawa Masanari(北澤正誠), a official of MOFA concluded that "Takeshima" is Jukdo in "A Study of Takeshima (Takeshima Kosho 竹島考証) ".Gerry Bevershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14311939520870098017noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-22072903494926752552009-02-19T01:22:00.000+09:002009-02-19T01:22:00.000+09:00Thanks, GTOMRI changed colour of the sencence.In t...Thanks, GTOMR<BR/><BR/>I changed colour of the sencence.<BR/><BR/>In this document, Kitazawa concluded that Argonaut doesn't exist and Takeshima(Argonaut) was just a rock(Boussole Rock/Jukdo). Ulleungdo had been called as Takeshima, but MOFA finally concluded Matsushima was Ulleungdo, same island. That was the reason most Japanese officials started to use one island three names(Takeshima/Matsushima/Ulleungdo) to avoid confusion. It probablely affected Korean government's recognition and Kojong must have referred those islands names from Japanese documents and maps.Kaneganesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533339719864245857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-33047789658246737462009-02-18T18:59:00.000+09:002009-02-18T18:59:00.000+09:00Kaneganese;Please change the red colour or emphasi...Kaneganese;<BR/>Please change the red colour or emphasis the phrase as follows;<BR/>This is most important phrase on 竹島考証 , recognization by Mofa and so on,after Amagi's survey on 1880.<BR/><B>明治十三年天城艦ノ松島ニ廻航スルニ及ヒ其地ニ至リ測量シ始テ松島ハ欝陵島ニシテ其他竹島ナル者ハ一個ノ岩石タルニ過キサルヲ知リ事始テ了然タリ 然ルトキハ今日ノ松島ハ即チ元録十二年称スル所ノ竹島ニシテ古来我版図外ノ地タルヤ知ルヘシ</B><BR/><BR/>After the Kitazawa's conclusion of 竹島考証,Mofa considered it is one island three names ,朝鮮鬱陵島一名竹島一名松島.<BR/>His and mofa's recognization is quoted many documents which shows only Ulluengdo(and Jukdo).<BR/><A HREF="http://sites.google.com/site/takeshimaliancourt/Home/ulluengdo-another-name-takeshima-matsushima" REL="nofollow">See the list here.</A>GTOMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06881539471132140299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-68113557715761535092008-10-02T02:07:00.000+09:002008-10-02T02:07:00.000+09:00On 竹島所属考,there are the discription that "韓人竹島の外別に一...On 竹島所属考,there are the discription that "韓人竹島の外別に一島あるの説を信じ人を遣わし海中を捜索し得す空しく竹島の鰒を拾い還るてありしなり。"<BR/>Is there any relation between the text above and 竹島外一島?GTOMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06881539471132140299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-13341033401106488162008-10-02T02:05:00.000+09:002008-10-02T02:05:00.000+09:00This comment has been removed by the author.GTOMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06881539471132140299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-41993370010414517102008-10-01T02:21:00.000+09:002008-10-01T02:21:00.000+09:00Anyone have a original document or full text as f...Anyone have a original document or full text as follows? <BR/>a <A HREF="http://www.pref.shimane.lg.jp/soumu/web-takeshima/takeshima04/sugi/take_04g08.html" REL="nofollow">Meiji 14「日本海内松島開墾之儀ニ付伺」by 島根県令境二郎</A>, which wrote "朝鮮国蔚陵島即竹島松島之儀ニ付"<BR/>b <A HREF="http://messages.yahoo.co.jp/bbs?.mm=GN&action=m&board=1835396&tid=cddeg&sid=1835396&mid=16976" REL="nofollow">外務省記録8324「内務書記官 西村捨三の外務省書記官宛照会」</A>GTOMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06881539471132140299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-7849840527476351522008-05-28T15:08:00.000+09:002008-05-28T15:08:00.000+09:00Thank you, GerryI corrected Kitazawa's name to "Ma...Thank you, Gerry<BR/><BR/>I corrected Kitazawa's name to "Masanari". <BR/><BR/>GTOMR,<BR/><BR/>It was very interesting story. It reminds me of "Flying Usando" for Korean. By the way, I heard Parangdo(波浪島) was today's 離於島(蘇岩礁).Kaneganesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533339719864245857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-84593749550994041552008-05-28T12:19:00.000+09:002008-05-28T12:19:00.000+09:00It is not directly related with this Argonaut and ...It is not directly related with this Argonaut and Dagelet issue that there are another interesting story about non^exist ghost island called Nakano-tori-shim(Gandis island)<BR/><BR/>幻想諸島航海記<BR/>http://homepage3.nifty.com/boumurou/island/GTOMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06881539471132140299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-76450481417818717322008-05-28T11:09:00.000+09:002008-05-28T11:09:00.000+09:00This comment has been removed by the author.GTOMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06881539471132140299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-7856766161992335202008-05-27T07:44:00.000+09:002008-05-27T07:44:00.000+09:00Kaneganese,Your post is quite interesting and expl...Kaneganese,<BR/><BR/>Your post is quite interesting and explains a lot about the twenty-four documents in the "Takeshima Kosho" (竹島考証), but today is my busy day at school, so I will not be able to make corrections until after I get home at 10 p.m. tonight.<BR/><BR/>Hopefully, someday, we will have all twenty-four of the documents in the "Takeshima Kosho" translated and posted on this site because I would love to be able to read all of them.<BR/><BR/>Have a nice day.Gerry Bevershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14311939520870098017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26948035.post-48079759212852890302008-05-27T03:01:00.000+09:002008-05-27T03:01:00.000+09:00Let me know if you find any mistakes.Gerry,Could y...Let me know if you find any mistakes.<BR/><BR/>Gerry,<BR/><BR/>Could you correct my post when you have time? Thanks.Kaneganesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533339719864245857noreply@blogger.com